tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post112919833504465376..comments2024-01-26T03:26:54.060-05:00Comments on O-pinion: Let's put a freeze on the wind chill factorUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-57636323757710978442015-02-18T15:02:31.411-05:002015-02-18T15:02:31.411-05:00Blockhead,
I don't think anyone would recomme...Blockhead,<br /><br />I don't think anyone would recommend dressing inappropriately for 10 degree weather with 40 mph winds. I would guess that meteorologists saying "It's 10 degrees out, and the winds can reach 40 mph" would do just fine as a warning instead of the hype and inaccuracy of wind chill.<br /><br />Thx,<br /><br />Peter<br /><br />The Observer Editorial Boardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152351817031057326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-58572443118144553452015-02-18T14:37:29.638-05:002015-02-18T14:37:29.638-05:00In summer we add the humidity to the temperature t...In summer we add the humidity to the temperature to get the heat index. But we don't then factor in the wind to subtract some from the temperature like we do in the winter? Seems we only like to know how miserable we are.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07432638095984529497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-8564907910202481802015-02-18T14:00:28.721-05:002015-02-18T14:00:28.721-05:00What about those who transport fruit in the bed of...What about those who transport fruit in the bed of pickup trucks. Do they not need to know this in every weather report?Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977808657926308272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-59956448968052507612015-02-18T13:58:46.325-05:002015-02-18T13:58:46.325-05:00I totally agree with Mr. Edgar. I question how man...I totally agree with Mr. Edgar. I question how many of these "meteorologists" really are. There's also a danger that by constantly crying wolf, when there is legitimate danger, viewers will have become inured to warnings. My point is simply that wind chill is incredibly dangerous. Though it is unlikely that anyone like me who's nuts enough to be outdoors in all kinds of weather would be ill-informed enough to be influenced by Peter's misinformation, there's a remote chance there is. Dressing for 10 degrees in calm air could literally be deadly when it 10 degrees with a 40 mph wind.blockheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17376074256505218722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-13356553805079497752015-02-18T13:45:15.226-05:002015-02-18T13:45:15.226-05:00blockhead - I don't think the message here is ...blockhead - I don't think the message here is that there is no value in wind chill, but that the number cited is not necessarily accurate. I, for one, applaud someone calling out these meterologists for putting semi-accurate information out in public in order to justify their existence. These people are far too self-important. I will never forget sitting on my couch during a summer thunderstorm listening to Brad Panic-ovich openly question the FAA for allowing flights to take off and land at the airport, as if his meterology degree made him more qualified than the FAA to decide when it's safe to land a plane. Steve Useless-son and Shreiking Thomas are just as bad. They need to rein in the hype and panic. A lot.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17089776297392081282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-25294899607915104472015-02-18T13:42:48.627-05:002015-02-18T13:42:48.627-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17089776297392081282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-46352196476618069512015-02-18T12:16:05.606-05:002015-02-18T12:16:05.606-05:00I beg to differ. There is a thermodynamic precede...I beg to differ. There is a thermodynamic precedent for wind chill; it is called wet-bulb temperature. Wet bulb temperature takes into account the evaporative cooling effect (if you are standing out in 60 degree air and your face is wet, it will feel much cooler than if your face is dry.)<br />The mechanical engineer that designed the HVAC system at your home or office used wet-bulb temps in determining capacity of the equipment. So it's not just marketing. Love, Jim CantoreAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853479370037426238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-76607880298610534142015-02-18T12:15:14.554-05:002015-02-18T12:15:14.554-05:00I won't belabor the point but a moment longer....I won't belabor the point but a moment longer. I agree with Mark, btw, about the ridiculous thing of naming storms. However, discounting wind chill is silly and dangerous, if you understand thermodynamics. Heat "pools" around a stationary body, which is why an air-cooled engine (or a liquid-filled radiator) needs to be moving to keep from overheating. It's also why moving air (wind) dissipates body heat so much faster. Why do you think we have "windbreaker" jackets, etc.? Incidentally, the ideal arrangement for keeping warm on zero mornings remains a natural wool inner garment or garments, and an exterior high-density, windproof shell, one for insulation, the other to prevent heat dissipation. I'm sure I'll see you all out at 5 tomorrow for your morning runs. (I'll beat you to it - only a nut...)blockheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17376074256505218722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-1149258473496249952015-02-18T11:57:40.279-05:002015-02-18T11:57:40.279-05:00While we're at it can we ban the ridiculous ne...While we're at it can we ban the ridiculous new fad of naming winter storms?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14859146417284674170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-66581034851654586212015-02-18T11:54:10.905-05:002015-02-18T11:54:10.905-05:00I hate television weather hype as much or more tha...I hate television weather hype as much or more than the next guy. However, you're totally wrong about wind chill. I run, bicycle and walk daily, regardless of weather and temperature. There is an enormous difference between running on a 10-degree morning with no wind, and one in which there's even a 5 or 10 mph wind - not to mention the 30 mph and up winds that normally accompany a cold front. I can be toasty at 10 calm degrees, but nearing frost bite and hypothermia at the same temperature with wind. Huge, huge difference. My guess is, this screed was written by someone who sits on the coach - like many of my friends - and expounds on how they just love winter and cold weather.blockheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17376074256505218722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-67722367406993257912015-02-18T11:42:58.338-05:002015-02-18T11:42:58.338-05:00Thank you for this. Wind chill is temperature with...Thank you for this. Wind chill is temperature with a press agent. Only for exposed heated items. Who goes out in sub zero temps with no clothing? Has minor significance in determining loss of heat for idling engine of car (heat producing object) or when to wear gloves, scarf and hat. Other than that it gives weather agents a WOW event to crow about. Value for making personal decisions? Close to zero (unadjusted).tarhoosierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203562404036647187noreply@blogger.com