tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post3206272087037489738..comments2024-01-26T03:26:54.060-05:00Comments on O-pinion: Doonesbury on abortion: Publish or not?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-83059824879730944872012-03-15T20:28:53.151-04:002012-03-15T20:28:53.151-04:00Got to say that I have seen Ask Amy's that are...Got to say that I have seen Ask Amy's that are more graphic than that. Who decides about what to censor on Ask Amy? Same page ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-14225275557915325182012-03-15T15:53:32.829-04:002012-03-15T15:53:32.829-04:00This is purely a request for information: why did ...This is purely a request for information: why did the Observer decide, after all this mulling, to run a substitute strip in the print edition, but to link to the "real" strip for today in the online version? Is this an implicit statement about online readership sensibilities vs. the sensibilities of those of us who still hanker for newsprint?Chris Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-87784641969323986322012-03-14T07:22:10.694-04:002012-03-14T07:22:10.694-04:00I've read the comic, its not funny, its ironic...I've read the comic, its not funny, its ironic there is a difference. Trudeau's strip has ALWAY been a social commentary about values. The juxtapositioning of value within the same group like "right to life" and "pre-emptive war". Those are both values of the Republican party, and yet they are inconsistent with each other; how can you reconcile saying all life is sacred (including the unborn), but it is just to attack someone who MIGHT be a threat to you? An on top of that, claiming Christian values, while promoting the wealth at the expense of the poor, I doubt Christ would think that typified his teachings (promoting tax cuts for the wealth and spending cut on benefits for the poor). Just some food for thought, also thanks CO for being big daddy and not letting us see things that might disturb us; now if you could also stop printing negative stories, like stories on crimes or corruption, I'm sure there are people who are offend by those stories too. Give it a rest, and quit the newspaper business, sell it to someone with journalist experience and doesn't have a big brother complex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-23875426895785534732012-03-14T01:45:27.192-04:002012-03-14T01:45:27.192-04:00It can't be any more graphic than the reported...It can't be any more graphic than the reported killing of 16 Afghans over the weekend.Rea Road Neighborhood Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03856658001746917957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-48058779980843557282012-03-13T07:55:06.614-04:002012-03-13T07:55:06.614-04:00@bball1 The Texas law may not mention a transvagin...@bball1 The Texas law may not mention a transvaginal ultrasound specifically (the VA law did), but in reality, you are highly unlikely to be able to actually see an image of the fetus through a normal ultrasound in early pregnancy. As most terminations take place very soon after the woman finds out she's pregnant, this will be a serious problem with the law. What happens if the doctor is legally obliged to make the woman see the ultrasound, and the 'normal' way doesn't actually produce an image of the fetus?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-83125511458421116202012-03-13T07:06:24.441-04:002012-03-13T07:06:24.441-04:00Thanks, Sandra. You made my point with clarity. As...Thanks, Sandra. You made my point with clarity. As long as it's legal, then what's the problem? That's the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-77409001089228754702012-03-13T04:08:56.053-04:002012-03-13T04:08:56.053-04:00correction: final line in foregoing should read &...correction: final line in foregoing should read "Except for Peter's young 'un. . ."Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850337248679255927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-87163087156870915852012-03-13T04:04:37.172-04:002012-03-13T04:04:37.172-04:00@Lynne 7:04 p.m.
I'll wager that you do not sa...@Lynne 7:04 p.m.<br />I'll wager that you do not say regarding Rush Limbaugh "if you don't like him don't listen to him."<br /><br />That said, run Doonesbury. Except for TB's young 'un, kids aren't reading the paper anyway.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850337248679255927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-78479674892744569062012-03-13T00:20:38.752-04:002012-03-13T00:20:38.752-04:00for all of you quoting the transvaginal US "r...for all of you quoting the transvaginal US "rape" fomented on women seeking an abortion in virginia....i suggest that you take a look at the law. all this uninformed nonsense about vaginal us was promulgated by women's groups and planned parenthood, as the law makes no mention of vaginal us...it's sort of like the new women's initiative by the democrats/obama administration, to me it's an insult to women as it basically is suggesting that they think most women are to stupid to actually take the time to inform their opinions...what an insultbball1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-44874948131968445162012-03-13T00:00:41.341-04:002012-03-13T00:00:41.341-04:00How perfectly "Observer," to try to meet...How perfectly "Observer," to try to meet all perceived perspective criticisms by both publish and NOT publishing this strip.<br /><br />Satire is of course an incisive way to take on serious topics, and that's the brand of "humor" to which this comic rightfully belongs. By highlighting the absurdity of the Virginia, Texas and other laws, Doonesbury is hopefully asking those who might thing "it's not a big deal, it's just an ultrasound" to take another look. <br /><br />When the Observer publishes only part of the strip and deeming Thursday's post too graphic ... what kind of comment is that on the actual LAWS being promoted -- and passed! -- in the US?? Or, perhaps, LACK of comment ... ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-21778491052540042532012-03-12T22:29:47.355-04:002012-03-12T22:29:47.355-04:00Folks--have the stones to publish these strips. P...Folks--have the stones to publish these strips. Put them on the editorial page--we all know it's not "Peanuts".<br />But stop being held hostage by the fascist women-haters....<br />They don't buy your paper anyway....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-15540944618974700922012-03-12T22:18:27.511-04:002012-03-12T22:18:27.511-04:00i just read in Charlotteobserver.com the article o...i just read in Charlotteobserver.com the article on Doonesbury. right below the article was an article of a 14 year old rape victim giving berth in the family bathroom.<br />think about that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-5449023055760814082012-03-12T22:09:14.499-04:002012-03-12T22:09:14.499-04:00I would definitely publish it but it probably is a...I would definitely publish it but it probably is a better fit for the editorial page. The folks who don't approve aren't obligated to look at it. The rest of us would like to see it. But it doesn't really belong with the kid's comics.Jay Hanignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-51007789136641738932012-03-12T21:20:39.977-04:002012-03-12T21:20:39.977-04:00Anon 7:06:
The people who shouldn't be able to...Anon 7:06:<br />The people who shouldn't be able to sleep at night are those middle-aged, white male politicians who are advocating writing what some women have referred to as legal rape into law in Virginia. And if it passes, Texas will be next, and on throughout the southern basket case of red states. That's what the strip above is referencing.<br /><br />The Observer should absolutely run them all. People need to be aware of how disgusting this measure is, and any forum to get that message out is welcome. Abortion is LEGAL, and all these measures religious conservatives use to degrade and humiliate women and destroy their right to medical privacy will only erode our constitutional freedoms even further.Sandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-68722427466298715522012-03-12T21:10:35.404-04:002012-03-12T21:10:35.404-04:00Anon 7:44 - Sorry to burst your bubble, but you...Anon 7:44 - Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're misinformed about this as you probably are about many things, being an older conservative and all.<br /><br />I'm a twenty-seven year old professional with Wells Fargo and I can assure you Doonesbury is quite popular with the younger generation, just as The Daily Show and Colbert Report are. Trudeau speaks the truth, as do those other gentlemen, and has been doing it for decades with sharp humor and a sharper needle.<br /><br />The Republican Party in particular and conservatives in general say and do the nuttiest things, and do them with such brazen hypocrisy, that it's really pretty easy to lampoon them. The material practically writes itself. Or, when a particularly clueless Republican politician like Sarah Palin says something, it often DOES write itself! It's not a tough job.Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-16340024905158861942012-03-12T19:44:48.537-04:002012-03-12T19:44:48.537-04:00Only a few people of a certain age and political p...Only a few people of a certain age and political persuasion (older liberals) pay attention to the strip anyway. I suspect this was a carefully considered and, frankly, wise business decision. Plus, Trudeau stopped being either funny or alarming a long time ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-16348249477031151782012-03-12T19:27:54.723-04:002012-03-12T19:27:54.723-04:00Why should you post it?
The Observer censors comm...Why should you post it?<br /><br />The Observer censors comments all day long from people by playing Censor God because they fear the N word, B word, C word, D word or anything that goes against "diversity".<br /><br />I had a post deleted the other day because I used the word "shorthand".<br /><br />Go figure.<br /><br />I don't really care one way or the other, but if you print it, the Observer editorial staff will be a bunch of hypocrites.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-74262343199655046062012-03-12T19:15:04.504-04:002012-03-12T19:15:04.504-04:00It's. A. Comic. Strip.It's. A. Comic. Strip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-23583061805483055562012-03-12T19:06:03.991-04:002012-03-12T19:06:03.991-04:00Hard to wrap your head around so many who are agai...Hard to wrap your head around so many who are against the death penalty for cold blooded killers and at the same time for the killing of unborn children. It's not just about the mother, but if that helps you sleep at night... I still don't know where your humanity lies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-40616151049985234632012-03-12T19:04:25.526-04:002012-03-12T19:04:25.526-04:00Like everything else in this life, people should b...Like everything else in this life, people should be able to decide for themselves if they want to read the strip. It is only a cartoon, for heaven's sake. Just like with all of the television stations available, if something offends you, simply don't look at it. There are other options available that won't offend anyone...Lynnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-5407344927280873402012-03-12T18:49:38.214-04:002012-03-12T18:49:38.214-04:00To Doonesbury, the "transvaginal" law wa...To Doonesbury, the "transvaginal" law was in Virginia, not Texas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-11021959943839761032012-03-12T18:36:06.380-04:002012-03-12T18:36:06.380-04:00Personally, I do not read him because I rarely fin...Personally, I do not read him because I rarely find that I see the humor in anything that he does or have ever done. I do not consider his works to be comedy and never have. Regards this weeks subject matter, abortion. I believe that my opinions are mine and that my position will not alter any other person's opinion. I discussed this issue years ago when my children were reaching an age where they might have to one day make such a decision. Personally, I do not believe in abortion; my belief. I also do not buy into the whole its a women's decision alone bit. It took two to create. My opinion is that it should take two to determine the fate; not withstanding the fact that the woman is the one who must bear the child. But really, my opinion only makes a difference to the ones that I love and those that love me. The rest of you can and should do as your conscience dictates.IamHerenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-12604712981165856012012-03-12T17:59:48.174-04:002012-03-12T17:59:48.174-04:00Of course the Observer will print it, who are they...Of course the Observer will print it, who are they going to offend, the subscription base that has dropped 75% in 10 years, or the advertisers that have already left in droves?Ghoulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099647823915879139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-45471738210309250242012-03-12T17:56:11.959-04:002012-03-12T17:56:11.959-04:00Trudeau intentionally goes over the line once ever...Trudeau intentionally goes over the line once every year or so to try to convince himself that he's relevant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-48739204143130880802012-03-12T17:52:16.790-04:002012-03-12T17:52:16.790-04:00Nice to know that if you do not agree with His Hig...Nice to know that if you do not agree with His Highness the Editor they delete your comments. Why ask for opinions if you're only going to take the ones you like.Zonnoreply@blogger.com