tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post8557513336543372676..comments2024-01-26T03:26:54.060-05:00Comments on O-pinion: Secession petitions surge after Obama win? Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-31635669315651703112012-11-22T10:08:26.933-05:002012-11-22T10:08:26.933-05:00How many "civil wars" occurred when Sovi...How many "civil wars" occurred when Soviet republics seceded?<br /><br />How many "civil wars" occurred when Norway seceded from Sweden?<br /><br />How many "civil wars" occurred when Slovenia seceded?Garth Vaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03575150785051894691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-37590300443607796842012-11-19T09:06:01.401-05:002012-11-19T09:06:01.401-05:00The Civil War pitted North against South.
If you ...The Civil War pitted North against South.<br /><br />If you look at the voting patterns of the last presidential election, this new secession would probably pit both sides against the middle.Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-19566669759362812412012-11-19T08:59:31.235-05:002012-11-19T08:59:31.235-05:00The actual Liberty Tree would be illegal today.
I...The actual Liberty Tree would be illegal today.<br /><br />It would be considered a hate crime.<br /><br />Political correctness is the new king.Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-11184055942425030152012-11-15T10:18:39.269-05:002012-11-15T10:18:39.269-05:00The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to...The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826208252478466448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-120769876197743472012-11-15T09:39:22.853-05:002012-11-15T09:39:22.853-05:00I'm fine with all these people giving up their...I'm fine with all these people giving up their citizenship. Clearly anyone signing these petitions is a far right crazy so they're just holding the rest of us back. Actually, we could chip in to buy two islands somewhere, one for the crazy right and one for the crazy left. They could spend their time building fences or glaring at each other while the rest of us have some adult conversations and get the country moving again. chupacabrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06268145898613036067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-16606349576769668632012-11-15T08:51:47.224-05:002012-11-15T08:51:47.224-05:00I believe the term is "butt-hurt." Geez,...I believe the term is "butt-hurt." Geez, get over it. You want to leave, leave. Go to Greece: same economy, better weather. But it's Greece.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09511228784091258680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-50782471237786765002012-11-15T08:46:02.991-05:002012-11-15T08:46:02.991-05:00" Remember, we had a Civil War to settle that..." Remember, we had a Civil War to settle that issue nearly 150 years ago."<br /><br />So, constitutional law is settled by brute force? By that reasoning, John Wilkes Booth legally ruled Lincoln's election invalid.<br /><br />"The Civil War ended and the union was kept intact."<br /><br />Wrong. The Civil War destroyed the voluntary union of free people, and established the supremacy of the federal government, backed by the subsidy seekers in industry and banking.Old Rebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11146916266682461688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-59740653965637136582012-11-14T22:17:37.420-05:002012-11-14T22:17:37.420-05:00I do just want to say that the people who are sign...I do just want to say that the people who are signing these petitions are exercising their freedom of speech, so technically they are doing no wrong. On another thought does anyone else see the irony of the possibility of the country splitting the same way twice. I know that things happen but this appears to be history repeating itself maybe the government needs to back up and punt the current ideas start over in a way that includes the thoughts of states nd counties and see if we can get this country back together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-91627222839088700542012-11-14T22:11:15.243-05:002012-11-14T22:11:15.243-05:00When Benjamin Franklin emerged from Independence H...When Benjamin Franklin emerged from Independence Hall at the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a woman asked him, “Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?”.<br /><br />Mr. Franklin replied, “A republic, madam – if you can keep it.”<br /><br />The BushBama presidency has moved us so close to monarchy - Kill Lists, signing statements, warrantless wiretaps, PATRIOT, TSA, indefinite detention, assassination of citizens without charge or trial, worthless paper money emitted via fiat rather than coined from metal as required by the Constitution - that we might as well recognize that we have NOT kept Franklin's beloved republic.<br /><br />I wonder if those baffled by the secessionist petitions even know that name of this country actually MEANS something, that it is STATES which CHOSE to UNITE. Which means they can choose to disunite as well.<br /><br />From Federalist 45 written by James Madison:<br /><br />"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite."<br /><br />Alexander Hamilton - no foe of central government - argued against the need for a Bill Of Rights because it was implicit in the constructionist language of the Constitution that Congress had only the seventeen enumerated powers:<br /><br />"Why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do?"<br /><br />I invite Laura and others to read Federalist #45 and #84.Garth Vaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03575150785051894691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7536140049505603887.post-12146723966751939482012-11-14T19:49:01.302-05:002012-11-14T19:49:01.302-05:00This is the most ridiculous thing. These people ne...This is the most ridiculous thing. These people need to get a life and stop being such sore losers.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07133109533677324817noreply@blogger.com