Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Perdue won't apologize to Mississippi governor

N.C. Gov. Bev Perdue is not backing down from taking a shot at Mississippi.

After N.C. voters approved a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman, Perdue told WITN in Greenville on Friday: "People are saying, 'What in the world is going on in North Carolina?' We look like Mississippi."

That irritated Mississippi's governor, Republican Phil Bryant, as well as some former Mississippi residents (read a letter from one of them on Wednesday's Opinion page).

Perdue talked with Bryant on the phone Monday, but didn't apologize, WRAL reports.

It's a fact "that Mississippi, for years, tended to be more conservative and North Carolina tended to be more progressive," Perdue said, WRAL reported.

"I thought we had a really good conversation about public policy between North Carolina and Mississippi."

Bryant, who opposes same-sex marriage, called the conversation with Perdue "disappointing" and said Perdue is mischaracterizing his state.

Meanwhile, Rob Schofield, who writes about state government for the Progressive Pulse blog, defends Perdue's comment.

"Think about it," Schofield writes. "If one of your main jobs was selling North Carolina to businesspeople from all over the nation and the world, you too would feel embarrassed by having to explain such nonsense."

What do you think? Was Perdue out of bounds to say the Amendment One vote makes North Carolina look like Mississippi?

-- Taylor Batten










43 comments:

faithplusnothing said...
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faithplusnothing said...

Liberals are seldom called out for their hateful and disrespectful comments because the media that puts out the stories usually agrees with them. This is no different.

Skippy said...

Think about what? What brand is NC trying to sell? The corrupt and inept Perdue? Mike and Mary Sleasley? John Edwards? The Duke Lacross scandal? The fiasco that is the DNC Convention? Nick Mackey? Harry Jones? Mike Nifong? Jim Black? Highest gas taxes in the south east? White flight in Charlotte? Flash mobs? Or the fact that only 61% favored this amendment that was passed here one similar to what CA passed?

There is a reason why she is not running again for Govenor and there is a reason why this state flipped from blue to red for the first time in 120 years.

And if you clown liberals believe Obama's flip flop was not for calculated political gain, then you lose again. 67% as polled by NYTimes/CBS believe Obama did this for political reasons only which now if you can believe it, the regime is calling the NY Times biased.. Yes, teh NY Times is biased, and the Democrat Party is looking more foolish by the day.

So keep running your mouth Perdue.

f318e66e-9ec7-11e1-8b62-000bcdca4d7a said...

Like they say, "If the shoe fits ..."

I like living in Charlotte -- the city is beautiful and it's a LITTLE more progressive (gonna party like it's 1999!) -- but I keep getting reminded that, outside of Charlotte (and Raleigh/Durham), it's North Carolina. Sigh.

Rebels Hate Me said...

Bev Purdue has it right this time. She is clearly disappointed that the majority of native North Carolinians are still a bunch of dumb conservative rednecks, who are simply sheep, led by some religious zealot. It's not anything the rest of the United States is surprised to hear or read, as it just fits with the uneducated Bible Belt stereotypes.
Again, I know Bev shakes her head at the outcome over Amendment One, although she should note that the more educated areas did vote against the Amendment. Bev should take great solace in knowing that she has made a positive difference, even with the Republicans doing everything in their power to ignore the economic problem of this state, and shifting the focus to controlling the morals of everyone's home.

Apologize to Mississippi, a 3rd World State/Country? Yeah, like anyone wants to be connected with something as lowlife, as conservative and as mindless in religious thought as those Rebels.

Good for you Bev!

NCGal1 said...

It's a fact "that Mississippi, for years, tended to be more conservative and North Carolina tended to be more progressive,"

Since when has the opposite of conservative become "progressive". Talk about a slant!

NCGal1 said...

Bev says, "Mississippi, for years, tended to be more conservative and North Carolina tended to be more progressive,"

Since when did the opposite of conservative become progressive? I voted against Amendment One and am a Republican. So what are you going to label me Bevie?

BiBr said...

The only words Bev needs to utter are, "Goodbye ya'll."

kantstanzya said...

61%, an overwhelming majority of her state supports the amendment. So besides Mississippi Bev insults them as well. And she wonders why she isn't popular?

The funniest thing about the whole marraige debate is the constant misinformation and misrepresentation from the media and the few nitwits like this Rob Schofield who writes for something called "Progressive Pulse" (big surprise) they find to quote that business somehow even cares about this issue. 31 states have this law and only 6 specfically oppose. The growing business states like Texas and Georgia support the amendment. The states with poor business climates like N.Y. and Mass. are the ones opposed. Even liberal California supported it until their vote was nullified by a liberal judge...which is the whole point of a constitutional amendment.

Business people could care less about this issue when making their decision to locate a plant. S.C. is more conservative than even N.C. and they seem to be doing quite well attracting Michelin, Bridgestone, BMW and even Boeing.

The facts are exactly opposite from what Mr. Batten wants us to believe.

Archiguy said...

Perdue made a mistake only in singling out Mississippi. If she had just said "other southern states", it wouldn't have become an issue.

But then she compounded the mistake by not apologizing to the governor and telling him exactly that. The South IS on the morally, ethically and constitutionally wrong side of history here, and now NC has to share that shame. Her message was right; the way she delivered it was wrong.

And BTW, those large industries are attracted to SC because of tax breaks and relatively cheap labor. It's apples to oranges. What will be lost here are many of the young entreprenuers and creative class that fuel the small business economic engine of the future. They'll go instead where civil rights are respected and all are welcome. There is no upside to the passage of this amendment for NC.

Skippy said...
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Skippy said...

Rebels hate me.. Mensa, you do know CA, Oregan and Michigan voted for this same amendment and the VAST majority of blacks voted for this as well including 31 other states including Texas where 2,000 Californians are moving to a day? Of course you don't, you are a latrine feeding liberal.

Rebels Hate Me said...

Hey Skippy, you offended? I guess you ARE one of those dumb rednecks, huh? Well, understand this: Amendment One FAILED in Mecklenburg County, ding dong, along with areas that have educated individuals. You keep supporting your book of Sunday Stories all you want, but you still look like a homophobic, that is back in the 1950's. I bet you'd vote for Jim Crow Laws, too, wouldn't you? C'mon, be honest, be a rebel, wave your loser flag and wear your white robe.
Conservative...no, you're just uneducated. The religious garbage allows you to hide behind your ignorance. Press your silly homophobic morals on someone else, confederate.

Graydon Stephenson said...

It is a morally responsible position to oppose same sex marriage.

There are those who take this position with deep and careful thought and reflection.

Insults, personal attacks, and name calling is entertaining. It is less persuasive.

GottaBchittenme said...

nyThere was a great line in "Office and a Gentleman" about queers and steers in Texas. Looks like a bunch of one of them moved to NC. Thank goodness not many of them as the People voted the outcome, and it wasn't even close!!!

Bev, YOU are an embarassment.

John said...

She should apologize for the lousy job she's done as Governor and then keep her trap shut and do as little as possible until we elect someone to fill the empty chair in her office!

We already know shes out of touch with voters, that's why her approval was down to 29% and decided not to run for re-election.

This is the gal who was elected Governor and didn't want to live in the Governor's mansion because it wasn't good enough for her!

John said...

Rebels Hate Me,

Why don't you move back to the North where you obviously came from?

You want to see the face of bigotry? Look in the mirror.

The evidence is taken from your OWN quotes:

"majority of native North Carolinians are still a bunch of dumb conservative rednecks, who are simply sheep, led by some religious zealot"

"she should note that the more educated areas did vote against the Amendment"

"Apologize to Mississippi, a 3rd World State/Country? Yeah, like anyone wants to be connected with something as lowlife, as conservative and as mindless in religious thought as those Rebels."

Statements like those DEFINE bigotry.

f318e66e-9ec7-11e1-8b62-000bcdca4d7a said...

John,

This statement that you quoted: "she should note that the more educated areas did vote against the Amendment" is not bigotry -- it's the truth.

John said...

"John,

This statement that you quoted: "she should note that the more educated areas did vote against the Amendment" is not bigotry -- it's the truth."

Large population centers, are not, automatically "more educated". In most urban settings, the more educated people actually live in the suburbs, not in the city proper.

Particularly in Charlotte, do you really want to put CMS up against neighboring schools systems?

Also, education doesn't always equal intelligence. It's incredible to note sometimes the dumb choices made by highly educated people! See John Edwards as an example.

I note that you ignored the other two quotes cited.

Oldilocks said...
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Oldilocks said...
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Oldilocks said...

John,

Re: I note that you ignored the other two quotes cited.

I didn't ignore them; I didn't take issue with your assessment of them so I didn't address them.

Re: Large population centers, are not, automatically "more educated". In most urban settings, the more educated people actually live in the suburbs, not in the city proper.

I live in Charlotte proper, but I was actually referring to Mecklenburg County. I'd be willing to bet Mecklenburg County has a higher percentage of educated people than say, Anson County.

But, to quote Seinfeld, "Not that there's anything wrong with that."

Bobby Padgett said...

between the cuts to education spending and forcing Amendment 1 on us, the Teapublicans in Raleigh have spent the better part of 2 years turning the state into something worse than Mississippi

Rebels Hate Me said...

Poor John...same old redneck line I've heard for 20 years (go back north; BWAHAHAHA!). Now, Bev Purdue understood the difference between Mississippi and North Carolina, but I don't think you even passed US Geography; there are 50 states and US residents are free to travel about. Why don't YOU take a hike down to Mississippi and enjoy the comforts of a more azz-backwards mentality for decades to come? See, this area, the Charlotte area, has a MAJORITY of people NOT from Charlotte. Again, I am not expecting you to know this, because you obviously struggled to earn your GED, which is the reason why you would never even think of leaving the south. Yet, Bev Purdue expected more, much more from residents of North Carolina and she never realized just how far the state still has to go to catch up with the rest of the US.

Now, go back to your double-wide, as your parents are worried sick about you. Please, learn to read more than just a book of Sunday stories...and get an education; you've disappointed your Governor.

GottaBchittenme said...

"and forcing Amendment 1 on us"

I've got to hear the explanation on this one, since it was a statewide open register VOTE.

Double Deac said...

Seems like the MS governor needs to get a backbone. MS is dead last in just about every desirable category, including education, health, and standard of living. On balance, Mississippi receives twice as many federal dollars as it contributes--making it just about first for federal handouts.

North Carolina is the home to a dozen Fortune 500 companies, MS has none; NC is fourth in tourist dollars, while MS is probably not in the top 25. Many of us choose to call NC home because we prefer it to places such as MS. If the complainers on this board disagree, feel free to ride I85 south.

BleedCrimson&White '98 said...

How is making a statement of fact hateful? Newsflash, faith, Gov. Perdue is exactly right about how progressive North Carolina had been up until now and how conservative Mississippi is and continues to dig in its conservative heels even deeper. And NCGal, since when was being a liberal the same as being a communist? Oh, that's right. It is so because the squawking, talking heads of the political right said so. Try looking up the term progressive sometime and you see why it is counter opposite to today's conservatives.

I am proudly from Alabama- born and raised- but I can see the stupidity of many of the conservative policies enacted by my beloved home state and its neighbors. My state would be much better off if not for the way Republicans manipulate the push buttons of the voters. When I moved to Charlotte to further my own business in 2002, politically it was a breath of fresh air. And this vote on Amendment One, outside of the major metropolitan areas, just serves to show all of the snobby little North Carolina natives I encountered when I first moved here that North Carolina is still a part of the South and all of its small-mindedness. A lot of the attitudes put forth politically by your Republican controlled General Assembly this session aren't much different from what has happened in Montgomery except they haven't been stupid enough, yet, to try to tackle illegal immigration or crafting legislation to make women seeking an abortion have to consent to a transvaginal ultrasound beforehand, that I know of at least.

BleedCrimson&White '98 said...

Rebels Hate Me, there is no need to be so angry/hateful in your comments. While I agree with your position of this little issue and share your frustration at many of my fellow Southerners penchant for cutting our own noses off to spite our faces, when you set politics aside, the South is still the only place I would want to call home.

Call me a dreamer, but I still think that maybe, just maybe, people will start holding the Republican politicians feet to the fire for all that they don't deliver in exchange for people's votes and see that on a lot of issues we really aren't that far apart. But as long as they can continue to stir the pot and make the voters focus on small things- like whether the president was born in Hawaii- they know they won't be found out and can stay elected.

Terminator said...

Ok - Rebels Hate Me - Since your so hung up on who's educated and who's not then let's discuss Homosexuality - the majority of people believe that "being gay" is a learned behavior or simply put a lifestyle decision or choice and the facts actually support that thesis. A further breakdown establishes that people who are gay have had a traumatic incident or tragic event which has defined them as well as the environment which they are raised. Know if someone believes that they are "born gay" and God made them that way well let's dive into that theory alittle more if you actually are born this way then from a medical standpoint the professionals would be able to identify and isolate the gay gene sort of like how they identify a gene carrying Downs Syndrome or a gene which causes Cystic Fibrosis then the "Gay Gene" would have been medically identified and thus we would have a definitive cause of homosexuality - but since the medical professionals have not yet been able to identify then apparently homosexuality would fall under the category of a Learned Behavior based on one's environment. Does that help with your uneducated dumb conservative bible thumping ignorant rant about most rural North Carolinians?

Rebels Hate Me said...

Here you go, Terminator:
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/15/my-take-what-the-bible-really-says-about-homosexuality/?hpt=hp_c2

This was recently in CNN. Sorry, but using the Bible against Homosexuals isn't going to fly.

Terminator said...

You expect me to use a liberal media mouth piece to support your argument? Really.. How lost you are. Ok - So if a person is classified as Bi-Sexual and they are comfortable with both a male and female then I would assume that 50 % of there gene pool is messed up and the other 50 % is just fine? Can't have it both ways Rebels - got to make a decision and stick with it.

Terminator said...

Unfortunately- The Bible has nothing to do with it - it simply is factual - I could go into more detail with you but I think you get the jist of it.

Rebels Hate Me said...

You're just babbling about, Captain Obvious. Of course, environment can play a role in someone become homo or bi-sexual. In addition, I am certainly opened to the notion that there are cases where individuals may have something with their brain which determines their sexual preference, although we are only hypothesizing.

This really has nothing to do with the slow thought process of the typical southerners. Perhaps you need to take the time to study the reasons as to why the native rebels IQ are so much lower than others living in different regions throughout the US. In fact, why are the students performance in southern public schools always in the bottom 10 in the US? Why the insistence on butchering the English language, as you clearly know the southerners are not pronouncing words properly? Why the stubbornness to embrace progressive ideas, as well as place religion into perspective?

Please, if you're going to strike up a dialogue with someone who is well-versed, progressive-minded, and well-traveled, please be prepared to step outside the box. Again, Bev Perdue is clearly and understandably distraught over the rigid religious ways, without understanding that times do change.

GottaBchittenme said...

Voter fraud in NC?

https://www.theprojectveritas.com/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=103

AugustEve said...

Well the state is looking more like Mississippi with its back woods approach to education that the present legislation has taken. Also, look at the statistics of Mississippi and look at the socio economic statistics of North Carolina. We are headed in Mississippi's direction. That would be devastating.

SouthernMiss said...

Aside from the subject matter of her comments (whether one is for or against the amendment), Gov. Perdue gave this state a black eye by making disparaging remarks about another state. There was absolutely no need to do this to make her point. I do not know if she has been to Mississippi in the last 40 years to see the changes in that state, but that makes no difference. An apology to the governor & to the citizens should be made. I am sure she would feel the same way if any other state made similar comments about North Carolina.

MarkB said...

Not only was Perdue out of bounds, the Observer once again demonstrates a double standard. Where is the editorial taking her to task? The comment was an obvious slap at another state.

Funny thing though: MS has lower unemployment and a better business climate than NC does. Maybe Bev could learn a few things from them.

Tim said...

gotta love what slime ball politicians like Perdue say when there is no "next election" on the line. She is way out of bounds. Arrogant. And its not like eastern NC, her staple support is cultured

King Ward said...

I think her assessment was accurate, which, in this instance, is a credit to Mississippi.

grizzy4884 said...

Haven't 29 other states Agreed with us so far? If standing up for God Means being backwards, Then I am satisfied. What a shame, That many folks Call themselves Christians, But believe that God Has no standards.

todd said...

Yet another reason Bev Perdue was told to step aside by the obama administration.

J said...

"Think about it," Schofield writes. "If one of your main jobs was selling North Carolina to businesspeople from all over the nation and the world, you too would feel embarrassed by having to explain such nonsense."

If you opposed the amendment, that's fine, but let's not create a crisis where there is none. Name me ONE business that moved its HQ to some other state for no other reason than that LGBTs can't get married here. I think you will be searching for quite some time.

And an earlier commenter was exactly right - if Pat McCrory said NC looked like Mississippi because NC passed a law or amendment he didn't like, the CO would be 100 pages long to capture all the rants the editorial board would write castigating him for it. But since it was a Democrat, the CO praises her for it.

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